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[Dark V]

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A force, je commence a deprimer severe moi ... apres avoir abattu tout ce taff, se faire bouler de chez Rover ou du garage local specialise dans les beaux bestiaux, ca manque un peu de solicitude ...
Surtout qu elle marche tres bien, mais je ne peux pas faire regler mon train avant tant que ce pb n est pas resolu et l echeance est super-proche ...........

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[yormeau]

Courage Calimarco <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Si le JdC n'est pas touhé c'est déjà ca ! Tu vas y arriver.... <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/icon_wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='icon_wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Nico7]

Myles (courte recherche dans blatchat/techtalk)
(Myles n'a pas de chauffage)

qte :
Basically (IIRC), after draining, I raised the front of the car to the max-height safely achievable with my axle-stands, then disconnected the radiator top-hose (rad end) and the expansion cap, and filled the system as best I could via both the hose and expansion tank.

When you get to the point of not being able to add any more to the hose, reattach it to the rad (ok, you'll lose a little coolant, but don't panic). Undo the rad bleed screw and massage the pipes a bit to try and encourage air to the highest points in the system (top of rad and expansion tank). Refit the expansion cap and tighten the bleed screw and run the engine for a bit - keeping a careful eye on the expansion tank. I'd expect to see it burp and bubble a few times.

If (after burping etc.) the level drops significantly, stop the engine and add a bit more coolant. I think I periodically stopped the engine and undid the cap and bleed screw a few times for good measure too.

When everthing looks more or less stable, drop the car off the axle stands and restart the engine - leaving it running long-enough to get up to operating temp and for the thermostat to open and coolant to start flowing through the rad - you can check if this has started by feeling the bottom rad hose.

I kept an eye on the temp gauge (wild fluctuations suggest air in the system) and just kept running the engine with periodic pauses to massage the pipes and relieve the cap and bleed screw until the system seemed happy. Then took it out for an easy run - watching the temp gauge like a hawk.

That was it really - it just worked.

The only problem I had (well, two actually) was that I didn't tighten the top hose jubilee clip properly (use a socket, not a screwdriver) - the hose is rather substantial and takes quite a bit of effort to compress. The second problem was equally of my own making - I had replaced the thermostat with a lower rated one (82 instead of 88degC) - and hadn't lubricated the rubber o-ring that seals the thermo housing into the block - as a result, it broke and leaked - but a replacement cost only 50p...
uqte

massage powaaa...

En montant ta cat sur tes rampes, quitte à rajouter des cales dessous, ça devrait suffire.
Même si avec ton bleed-T tu n'es pas censé en arriver là...

[PetruSeven]

Tu as un tee de purge ?
Si oui il est là pour te faciliter la vie.
Vis supérieure de purge de rad ouverte, bouchon de T ouvert, vanne de chauffage ouverte.
Remplir le vase d'expansion juqu'au maxi. Le fermer.
Remplir par le T en prenant soin d'en faire le point haut du circuit. Vérifier que le liquide coule par la vis supérieure de purge du rad. La fermer.
Compléter le niveau par le bouchon du Tee avant de le refermer
Démarrer le moteur. Maintenir à 2000 t/mn. Vérifier que le calorstat s'ouvre. Attendre que le ventilo déclenche. Couper le moteur. Le laisser refroidir une nuit ( c'est important: le liquide se refroidissant un vide partiel va se créer et les bulles de gaz vont se retrouver au dessus du niveau du liquide dans le vase d'expansion)
Refaire les niveaux du vase d'expansion et du tee de purge.
Démarrer.
Essai sur route.
On croise les doigts pour toi.

[Marco 7]

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Je vais essayer ca !
Just pour etre sur: l expansion cap, c est bien le bouchon du vase ?
Le "rad bleed screw", c est celle du haut du radiateur ? (je prefere demander meme si ca me parait tres con de purger pour remplir)
C est quoi le "top hose jubilee clip" ??? Le collier de la durite du haut ?

Encore merci !

[PetruSeven]

oui

[Nico7]

je dirai même plus :

3 fois oui <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='icon_biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Marco 7]

Un post qui va dans ton sens Nico, c est Paulo qui me l a passe:

<i>"You have written this short description of what you have done, which may not do justice to all the connivances you have applied... but I will take you literally.

It should be clear that the radiator and expansion tank are both on the radiator side of the closed thermostat. The result is that filling from these points leaves the potential for the cylinder head and block to have plentiful quantities of air trapped. It is a much more successful approach to attempt to fill the block and head with the car level. You do this by detaching the top radiator hose from the radiator and loosening it at the water rail - you can then angle it up into a vertical position and fill with coolant. Filling like this gives you the likelihood only of a small amount of trapped air at the heater.

Next, jack up the front and reattach the hose. Fill from the expansion tank with the radiator bleed valve open. When the expansion tank is good and full grasp the lower rad hose and flex it *A LOT*. Angle it until it is horizontal to get air to escape up to the expansion tank. There will be big glugs of coolant replacing air pockets. Keep topping up the expansion tank and when you think you have got all the air out, flex the hose some more. Don't neglect to flex the lower horizontal bit where it attaches to the radiator.

Having done this, the only air in the system is still by the heater. If you have the expansion tank high enough, loosen a heater hose and vent the air there. Do everything up and it is job done.

The system definitely takes ~5 litres (~10 pints)."</i>

Je sens que ca va devenir l attraction du parking ce soir encore ............................

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Merci a tous pour votre aide/soutien/blagues a base de moteur Ford <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/dents.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dents.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Cat_Man]

Marco, fait non rire, tu as utilisé combien de litre de liquide de refroidissement pour l'instant <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/icon_question.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='icon_question.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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[Nico7]

<!--QuoteBegin-Cat_Man+25.05.2005 à 15:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cat_Man @ 25.05.2005 à 15:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marco, fait non rire, tu as utilisé combien de litre de liquide de refroidissement pour l'instant <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/icon_question.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='icon_question.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Et toi, Catman, tu as réparé ta fuite ? <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/vert.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='vert.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/vert.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='vert.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/coucou.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='coucou.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Cat_Man]

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[Marco 7]

<!--QuoteBegin-Cat_Man+25.05.2005 à 15:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cat_Man @ 25.05.2005 à 15:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marco, fait non rire, tu as utilisé combien de litre de liquide de refroidissement pour l'instant <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/icon_question.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='icon_question.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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[chap3d]

Tabernacle!!! Elle a soif ta mignonne!!

Bon courage chef, je pense que tu tiens le bon bout....

[Marco 7]

Ben si apres 5 minutes, la grosse durite du bas devrait etre chaude, je pense que j ai le calorstat de foire.

Y a personne qui aurait une idee pour depanner en 5 minutes un calorstat ?

[Cat_Man]

tu le vires....... Le Rover K monté trés vite en T°.

Eventuellement, tu le remplacera l'hivers venu si faire des ballages par - 15°C vient à ton esprit <!--emo&-->[img]http://www.forum-autoroule.com/html/emoticons/vert.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='vert.gif' /><!--endemo-->